the reviewer hit it right on the head. the whole FC saga began with a lot of promise, but has turned into a collection of story bits that make absolutely no sense. and now they kill Batman. Grant Morrison seems to be determined to ruin this great character, and in my opinion, he has achieved it. Batman using a gun? this goes against everything the character has stood for since his creation, and just feels like a cheap ploy. I’ll read the last issue of FC, but if this is the ultimate fate of The Dark Knight (even if they bring him back later) i will never, ever, buy anything written by Grant Morrison again.

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Grant Morrison blows!  All he does is write these so-called “shocking” storylines and everyone hi-fives him.  He ruins comic books.  That’s it.  If Batman was bumped off by The Joker, that would’ve been holy crap, fan-boys really would have lost their frickin’ minds.  And Batman goes against his vow of not using gun, right then and there.  Morrison needs to stop writing mainstream books and stick to his creator-owned stuff.

And you know Nightwing is gonna be the new Batman, like you knew Bucky was gonna be the new Captain America.  It just makes sense.  Well, I’m done spending my money on DC, now that they bumped off there greatest superhero.

Grant Morrison blows!
Grant Morrison blows!
Grant Morrison blows!

Thanks Grant you’re the best writer ever, keep cranking ‘em out!

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Grant Morrison blows!  All he does is write these so-called “shocking” storylines and everyone hi-fives him.  He ruins comic books.  That’s it.  If Batman was bumped off by The Joker, that would’ve been holy crap, fan-boys really would have lost their frickin’ minds.  And Batman goes against his vow of not using gun, right then and there.  Morrison needs to stop writing mainstream books and stick to his creator-owned stuff.

And you know Nightwing is gonna be the new Batman, like you knew Bucky was gonna be the new Captain America.  It just makes sense.  Well, I’m done spending my money on DC, now that they bumped off there greatest superhero.

Grant Morrison blows!
Grant Morrison blows!
Grant Morrison blows!

Thanks Grant you’re the best writer ever, keep cranking ‘em out!

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Final Crisis is not that bad.  It has definitely lost a lot of momentum and the scheduling errors of different FC titles didn’t help.  But Morrison is actually giving us a new and interesting story.  Of course Batman isn’t dead, and of course he’ll come back.  But that’s not even the point.  The point is this ‘major event’ is quite major.  Big things are happening within the DC universe and Morrison is responsible for it, good or bad.  Issue #7 should be interesting.  Stepping away from FC for a moment, did you actually think Secret Invasion was good?  Seriously?

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I thought Secret Invasion was much better than what Final Crisis has come out with.  Is it the best story ever?  No, but much better than FC.

Thank you for reading and commenting.

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Several people on boards I follow have pointed out that in Seven Soldiers, Mr. Miracle was blasted with the same “Omega Sanction” that Darkseid used against Batman… and he escaped it.  Granted, Mr. Miracle’s claim to fame is being the world’s greatest escape artist…but Batman’s got to be pretty close.

I <a href=“http://speedforce.org/2009/01/review-final-crisis-6/”>reviewed the issue</a> on my own blog yesterday.  And while I disagree about Morrison in general and Final Crisis up to this point, I will agree that this particular issue was missing a sense of real connection.  I’m 90% convinced that it’s supposed to be disjointed, having the narrative reflect the story, but it doesn’t quite work.

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Oops…sorry about the raw HTML code in there.  I can never keep track of which sites will actually accept it and which won’t.  Feel free to edit it.

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Yes, secret invasion was better than final crisis, hands down.  Even tie-in stories via the Avengers titles were really well written.  i realize that Batman will probably be back, better than ever.  Did Morrison have be to so over the top with Batman vs. Darkseid?  This will be one of those things, that people will look back on and go “ehh”!  It certainly won’t have the impact that Infinite Crisis (or even Identity Crisis) had on DC Universe.  Speaking of the latter, because I know I’m get hell for it, it was written way better than the garbage that Morrison pull out of his butt.  Don’t believe the hype!  Morrison is way overrated.  He does not know how to execute these overly elaborate plots.  It is ironic that Batman is killed on what would be his 70th aniversary year that he was created (i think the year is right).

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HA HA HA HA HA

“He does not know how to execute these overly elaborate plots. “

Oh, that’s priceless.

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Love to keep the dialogue going.  I’m not the biggest Morrison fan, but I do appreciate what he’s trying to do.  Tying Seven Soldiers, Batman, and Final Crisis is a BIG piece of work.  And for all it’s faults I think he’s done a pretty good job.  The story is complicated but that just gives the reader more to take in.  Stepping a little bit away from the whole multiverse fiasco and creating the Fifth World is kinda intriguing.

But Secret Invasion?  There are SO many plot holes, characters acting out of character, and the ending was too unbelievable for me.  But to each his own, right?

Thanks for listening…now excuse me while I go rip into the guy who loved Secret Invasion a few comments below!

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to waitbabyluv re: Secret Invasion vs. Final Crisis

Hands down?  Well written?  Seriously?  OK, here we go…

The secret invasion that the Skrulls had been planned for years was stopped by…a big fight in Central Park?  They took out all of earth’s defenses in minutes and they weren’t prepared for a big fight?  Their plan was an exploding Wasp?  They had the means to slit everyone’s throat in the dark and they go with an exploding Wasp in Central Park?  Their other brilliant plan was to distract the Avengers in Antarctica?  Why not on the moon, or halfway across the galaxy?

Keeping original cloning materials nearby?  So what about all those clones that were around for years?  Why alive?  WE don’t even need living organisms to clone, as long as cells are viable.  Was there a cloaked Skrull ship just waiting around in orbit?  Lazy writing, that’s all it is. 

Norman Osborn ruler of all things?  Isn’t he a convicted felon?  How can he dismantle the UN sanctioned S.H.I.E.LD.?  How can he take control of Stark Industries?  This is the US, you can’t nationalize Stark Industries.  And wasn’t Stark tech compromised by the Skrulls anyway?  Innocent till proven guilty.  Has Bendis even watched a courtroom tv drama?  How about Judge Judy (ok, maybe too much Judge Judy)?

And the whole premise of ‘who can you trust’ is just a variation on Bendis’ favorite (and only) plot device ‘who is under that mask?’.  I mean he uses that like, every second story line!  Dark Avengers?  New Thunderbolts?  Ronin?  Again?!  Find another plot device, please I’m begging you…

And what about the fact that this insignificant blip of a storyline had a billion cross-overs, went on for what seemed to be forever and ended with…wait for it…the beginning of another major event?!

I’m sorry but Secret Invasion was just a money grab.  Now I don’t think Morrison is to be worshipped.  He’s got his good days and bad.  But Final Crisis at least has you scratching your head a bit, digging up old issues, and has you trying to connect the dots.  The dots in FC are laid out in a logical manner.  Everything connects and everything makes sense (if you follow the story correctly).  No characters acts too out of character (Batman gun thing, check out Year Two) and no laws of logic are violated.  Batman dying in the major story arc is not like the requisite death in any Marvel major story arc.  It’s about a man taking out a god.  It’s a rallying point.  No one thinks for a second he is gone forever.  Battle for the Cowl has been building for years (one too many Robins) and I’m glad it’s finally going to get hashed out.

The only good thing coming out of Secret Invasion/Dark Reign is Agents of Atlas.

Ok.  Thanks for listening.

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All of you simpering whiners that say Morrison’s writing is garbage or claim he ruins books obviously have a single desire to be force fed. Morrison gives so much to books. People complain that you have to think about his writing or re-read his books… How many other writers can give you that for your money? Answer: None. While I love plenty of other work by plenty of other writers, Morrison is at the top of my list for his neverending imagination and sheer brilliance.

As for the reviewer looking for a ressurection of Batman… Give it up David. It’s not going to happen. That tells me everything about what kind of comic reader you are… One that needs someone to feed them with a spoon.

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even though i have hated the first 5, mainly because they make no sense, at least in 6 they did what happens in everyother mini-series. In the next to last issue they start to bring all the various thread together building toward the big climax in the last issue. So even though the first 5 parts sucked 6 sucked less.

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Well, first off thanks for reading my blog, Ken.  As a new writer, I really appreciate people taking the time out to read my stuff - even if they don’t agree with me.

As for being spoon fed my stories, I figure you can relate to that as you must drink a lot of the koolaid Mr. Morrison handing out.

Thanks again! 

Dave

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THAT WAS BATMAN PRIME

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Oh yeeah…
Secret Invasion was such a great storyline….
Yeah…skrulls have been posing as the marvel superheroes for a long…
where do this writers get their ideas from….sheesshh…

FC is fun to read. Sometimes things have to change. I meant who would have thought Cap America would be killed. He stood the test of time. Its time we let thing go, and let writers write what they want.

Its quite sad to see us bickering on how good or bad a writer is.  I pity the reviewer cause he must be mad he didnt get the position Grant Morrison is sitting in now. If we really want to critic something, we critic reality. Not fantasy. This comics we read are for our own pleasure. I’ve been reading comics for a good 15 years now, but I never complain on how lousy it is. In fact i admire it so i dont have to rack my brains to make a fantasy story for myself to entertain me.

So lets enjoy all comics there are and lets hope Supes gives Darkseid(i wonder if he really did die by that bullet) a good whopping…

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